A student asks on concept of Manifestation, the trail of discussion between the Acharya and the Student is given below:
QUESTION: : Here I am to ask a doubtful question. What exactly is manifestation.? Am I right to say that which can be perceived ? Eg Form , sound etc What do we mean by Lord Siva manifested in Kailash ? Ganesha in Nepal?
ANSWER: A transformation from a subtler from to grosser from is called manifestation. As the grossness increases more and more senses can perceive and participate in the experience of that object.
For manifestation to happen - the inner desire to manifest and an environment that is conducive for manifestation are both required.
Lord Shiva or Ganesha manifesting is to be taken as that subtle all pervading God principle becoming available for a relatively grosser experience either to the intellect, mind or sense organs and the place (Nepal, Mount Kailash) being conducive for such an expression to take place in the form of Shiva or Ganesha respectively.
QUESTION: When we say Lord is all pervasive does it mean in unmanifest form? ( am I right)
QUESTION: So can God be manifested any where and everywhere .
ANSWER: Yes . provided conditions are conducive - Just as the sunlight is everywhere but only on the surface of the Moon it is reflected and we perceive it even in darkness. A Blind man cannot see even Moonlight!
QUESTION: Why do we talk of manifestation of God?
ANSWER: When that all pervading manifestation is available for the limited sense perception - we call it manifestation, just as radio signals tuned by appropriate circuits to produce sound in our radio sets.
QUESTION: So what do we say of his creation nature ? We Beings are also his creation but with ego (limited people). Where do we place ourselves in this context?
ANSWER: Advaitha Vedanata holds the view that creation is a mere projection which is enlivened by the presence of Paramathma. When that infinite Paramatma is as though limited, it functions as a limited being and adorns the ownership for actions & results as Ego.
QUESTION: Again why do we always consider Lord Siva in Kailash. With Gita lesson 15 in hand these questions seem unanswered. To me Lord Siva is everywhere . So what is my confusion of manifestation here and there. If it is topic of manifestation it means perceivable, so Siva is perceivable again it is a given form which we should not fix It.
ANSWER: When we are unable to perceive the existence of an object beyond our normal vision, we would take recourse to a telescope, we may need to keep seeing the object through the telescope to confirm its existence and once the existence has been firmly established the telescope is not needed for us to assert it.
In the same way manifestation in a form and shape that is conducive for the Mind and Intellect to accept is the forms of Shiva and Ganesha. Once the all pervading nature is established, then the means of form and shape will be only for the joy of confirming.
QUESTION: In our homam prayers in our house we invoke Lord Vinayagar with the turmeric and carry on our prayers with the belief that Lord is here to clear all obstacles. Being a Sai Baba Devotee I do get answers in the form of honey, vibuthi can I say this as manifestation of Sai Baba.
ANSWER: If your Mind is happy and your intellect accepts than it is fine. Before your intellect rejects this it understands, accept & must hold on to the next higher concept of the same God principle in Brahman and then you may relinquish the need for a saguna (सगुण) Brahman.
QUESTION: Well now I received in whats app, Mt Kailsh and in cloud Form Of Lord Siva -- Do I call this as manifestation of Lord Siva or is it imaginary.
ANSWER: You have to decide. The stone that meant God to Hindus would be seen as a mere stone by the Britishers.
QUESTION: when we went to Nepal and when took local flight we view of Himalaya it was beautiful to see Lord Ganesha formed in clouds , Is this also manifestation of Lord Ganesha.?
ANSWER: Sanathana Dharma holds the view that any object can be divinized - the call is made by the devotee and state of his mind.
QUESTION: Some people go into meditation an come out describing the beauty of lord Ganesha manifested. Please help relate to all this in details. This will definitely help me to go further with my Lessons confidently. Till Than I will have to pause.
ANSWER: The Intensity of meditation with a view to see the form of Brahman in a particular form enables manifestation of that form for that devotee. This is the grace of the Lord. If the devotee wishes to become one with that paramathma and sits in meditation for that he realizes his Paramathma svarupam.
Queries will come to students of Vedanta because of two reasons -
One he/she has not grasped the message that is provided through the Vedantic texts clearly. This happens because mind is still holding on to worldly ties & intellect tries to understand the scriptures in the conventional way. The solution is to continue studying with faith & perseverance - continue till later part of the same text would clear the doubts.
One reads from various schools of philosophy and the approaches clash initially. The best way out of this is to pursue one school under one guru parampara till the subject matter is grasped clearly and then there will be no difficulty with understanding other schools of thoughts and where they fit in.