Week 5 Queries

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Week 5 Queries

Postby VarunKhanna » Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:41 pm

Dear All,

Hari Om! Namaste!

This week we had a high dose of Sanskrit! In case you want to see the notes from this week's session, check out the Google Drive folder for Week 05 here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B275bhG7zi2zd1NsSF9Ddl9TUkU?usp=sharing

In case you missed this week's video or want to see it again, please check it out here: https://youtu.be/-IQfadqfab4

Please post all queries related to week 5 in this thread!

Much love,

Varun
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Re: Week 5 Queries

Postby kmksde1974 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 5:02 pm

Sir, My suggestion is discuss every thing in one heading.Example regarding week 5 ,all the students and the teacher must be under one heading I.e week 5. Now I observed 3 headings for week 5.please avoid this.
I feel स्थान,आभ्यन्तर , भाह्य prayatanas are to be explained physically( with body language) ,with examples.So that every student can easily remember.so that the students can apply these things in the sutras ,in future classes easily.All these technical terms are new for some students.
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Re: Week 5 Queries

Postby VivekJi » Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:34 pm

Dear Varun,

I'm familiar with a few of the more well known people that teach in the west, and their methods indeed don't use Asthadyayi like you said. It's such a rare and amazing thing you're trying to teach this way and at the same time doing it in an easily digestible format.

Like for example most western teachers will say a+i=e. On the other hand you said you would teach us such Sutras directly and show us how to decode them and use them with regard to the new terminology we used in lesson 5.

This seems a way more solid way of building a strong foundation to understands the subtleties better but in your own words could you elaborate a little further why this is the better way to go to learn proper Sanskrit and also inspire us a little?

You might want to wait with explaining this till lesson 6 or beyond but I thought I try because it's just so fascinating.

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Re: Week 5 Queries

Postby ianr » Fri Mar 10, 2017 8:29 pm

Hi Varun

I am really struggling with this presentation. Would it be possible to add machine versions of your handwritten forms - I find it difficult to read your writing. In addition, would it be possible to add the international phonetic expressions to your explanations. Given this framework, we know what voiced and unvoiced means. There are the four positions of the mouth that make for the formation of vowels; there is the position of the lips, etc. This may make it possible (for me and possibly others) to tie everything together into a logical consistent framework. I am stuck at the moment..

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Re: Week 5 Queries

Postby ianr » Fri Mar 10, 2017 8:51 pm

I agree with the view expressed here:clear classification would help a lot rather than have ideas dotted around all over the place. The second paragraph sounds like a message and answer that would make things 'tangible'. One thing is knowing; it is another to be able to convey these ideas to those who don't yet grasp them. I feel that there is a growing gap that will make it impossible to take part very soon. Surely, the idea is that 'every student' ought to be able to understand.

kmksde1974 wrote:Sir, My suggestion is discuss every thing in one heading.Example regarding week 5 ,all the students and the teacher must be under one heading I.e week 5. Now I observed 3 headings for week 5.please avoid this.
I feel स्थान,आभ्यन्तर , भाह्य prayatanas are to be explained physically( with body language) ,with examples.So that every student can easily remember.so that the students can apply these things in the sutras ,in future classes easily.All these technical terms are new for some students.
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Re: Week 5 Queries

Postby VarunKhanna » Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:59 pm

ianr wrote:I am really struggling with this presentation. Would it be possible to add machine versions of your handwritten forms - I find it difficult to read your writing. In addition, would it be possible to add the international phonetic expressions to your explanations.


Dear Ian ji,

Hari Om!

Not to worry. Keep in mind that this class was just the "dictionary" class, where we went through some important terminology all at once. It is understandable if you struggled with this class. We had to get through it so we can get to the real stuff; don't worry too much about understanding the material in this lecture so much, it is more so that this information is there somewhere before we move forward, so that you can refer to it at any time.

I'll definitely add machine versions of my handwritten forms, thanks for that suggestion. Unfortunately I won't be able to add the international phonetic expressions to my explanations, but in case someone can take responsibility for that, then that would be perfect. Perhaps try asking people in the discussion forum under a new topic heading?

kmksde1974 wrote:Sir, My suggestion is discuss every thing in one heading.Example regarding week 5 ,all the students and the teacher must be under one heading I.e week 5. Now I observed 3 headings for week 5.please avoid this.

ianr wrote:clear classification would help a lot rather than have ideas dotted around all over the place.


Dear K. Malakondaiah ji and Ian ji,

If you are talking about the various topics put up by students on their own, instead of posting in the "Week 5 Queries" topic heading, please note that I have made a clear topic heading for people to post their queries related to week 5 in. But I cannot stop people from posting under new headings. I will consistently name the topic headings as "Week x Queries", so you can be sure to find the "main" discussions happening in these headings each week.

kmksde1974 wrote:I feel स्थान,आभ्यन्तर , भाह्य prayatanas are to be explained physically( with body language) ,with examples.


As for this suggestion, I have done my best to present it in the most expressive way possible, so as to avoid confusion (keeping in mind this was just a "dictionary" class). However, I understand that it may be confusing at times. In this case, if you come up with some good way of teaching these topics, I would be very eager to see them! Please share for the benefit of the others participating in the discussion forum. I too will think of newer and better ways of teaching these terms.

All the best,

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Re: Week 5 Queries

Postby aprasana » Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:39 am

Hari Om
Thank you for the notes.
One clarification is
Aach the pratyahara short form for svar or vowels?
like yan is for anthstha, njyay for sparsha, shal for ushma.

thank you in advance,
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Re: Week 5 Queries

Postby kmksde1974 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:06 pm

Namo namaha,varunkhanna mahodaya,
Your way of teaching Sanskrit is excellent.I am a Sanskrit learner only.Regarding talustana only I got confused.So I expressed my feelings in general.I am extremely sorry sir.
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Re: Week 5 Queries

Postby ianr » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:03 pm

" I'll definitely add machine versions of my handwritten forms" - I have just checked back to see if you have introduced this feature. Not that I can see. You see, for one not used to these letters the very slight variations are a perceptual challenge.

I am also having some difficulty navigating the site. I don't even know how to tune into your live sessions. So lots of problems from my perspective. However, despite (my) shortcomings, your approach IS thought provoking but really time consuming ... such that I have been looking round for help from other approaches - particularly learning/teaching strategies - which is even more time consuming. If I find anything that helps, I will certainly introduce it here.

Perhaps, I might add that it is possible to fill in the answer/reply boxes without being signed in. Then, when you wish to submit the post, you are asked to login but your entry disappears. In this way, you lose the post. It would be far more logical that entries in the text boxes could be made only AFTER login. I have learned the hard way, losing a number of posts:-)

Thanks for your responsiveness

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Re: Week 5 Queries

Postby VarunKhanna » Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:45 pm

ianr wrote:" I'll definitely add machine versions of my handwritten forms" - I have just checked back to see if you have introduced this feature. Not that I can see. You see, for one not used to these letters the very slight variations are a perceptual challenge.


Hari Om Ian ji,

I'm sorry for the delay in getting this typed up for you, and I completely understand that you are struggling to understand my handwriting. I have been quite tied up this week (and will be tied up for another week or so) with various commitments from the university, so I have been unable to go back and put things on the Google Drive folders for past weeks. However, I will get to it when time allows. My apologies.

All the best,

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Re: Week 5 Queries

Postby VarunKhanna » Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:58 pm

[quote="aprasana"]Aach the pratyahara short form for svar or vowels?/quote]

Dear Prasana ji,

Hari Om!

This is exactly correct.

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Week 5 Queries

Postby MichaelSwese » Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:52 am

that sounds too good to be true.. I'd love to do 2 or 3 lesson plans a week... hahah but 2 every other month... do you teach elementary?
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