Gita Chapter 8 - Aksara Brahma Yoga

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Re: Gita Chapter 8 - Aksara Brahma Yoga

Postby madan » Sat Feb 01, 2014 4:47 pm

Hari Om,
4-, Bhavah, anything that has birth; which is ksarah,mutable-destructible is called Adhibhuta . It means aggregate of body,mind and intellect.

Adhidaivatam, Purusah, the Person,Hiranyagarbha-the first being,because It pervades everything It is called adhidaivtam. It controls all the Devatas,presiding over deities which enables the individuas organ`s to function Smriti says,
He indeed is the first embodied being; He is verily called the Purush. He is Brahma, the first creator of creatures, who existed in the begining(Si.,5.1.8.22),
is the adhidaivtam, one who exists in the divine plane.


AAdhiyajnah, one who exists in the context of the sacrifice,is one who presides over all the actions and is the bestower of the results of all the actions. The Lord says, I am adhiyajna as antaryami in this body here, voice of God in all the hearts, voice of conscience and not Sakshi, Witness.He is present in the mind of us all as a silent speaker which guides us whether we listen to his voice or not- as a propeller of yajna-to do it or not to do it.
Adhiyajnah is to be understood as non- different from Supreme Brahman. And He exists here in this human body as sacrifice , distinct from intellect,etc on account of being the same as Vishnu.
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Re: Gita Chapter 8 - Aksara Brahma Yoga

Postby murugans61 » Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:15 pm

Hari OM

As Lord Krishna explains, Brahman is the imperishable Truth, adhyatma ( or atman) is the same Brahman behind the individual equipments. Karma refers to all actions which are the cause for the birth of all beings.
Adhibhuta is this entire perishable , inert universe. Adhidaiva is Hiranyagarbha who blesses all the organs of all beings. Adhiyajna is the Lord as the presiding deity of all the actions of the individual.

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Re: Gita Chapter 8 - Aksara Brahma Yoga

Postby Arvind » Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:33 pm

Hari Om ,

Pranaams to all. Thank you everyone for your reflections on Sloka 3,4.

Let us now proceed to Sloka 5,6,7 where now the Lord takes up Arjuna's last question.

Word and Sloka Meaning : Arvind

HGRR= Holy Gita Ready Reference
Thoughts and Concepts (1,2,3) = Murugan ji
Selections for Reflection (1,2,3) = Sathyavathi ji

Thoughts, Reflections = Everyone

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Re: Gita Chapter 8 - Aksara Brahma Yoga

Postby Arvind » Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:34 pm

Sloka 5
अंतकाले च मामेव स्मरन्मुक्त्वा कलेवरम्‌ ।
यः प्रयाति स मद्भावं याति नास्त्यत्र संशयः ॥

Word to Word Meaning
अंतकाले च = (And) at the time of death
मामेव = Me alone
स्मरन्मुक्त्वा = remembering and leaving
कलेवरम्‌ = the body
यः = whoever
प्रयाति = goes forth
स मद्भावं = he my Being
याति = attains
नास्त्यत्र = there is no
संशयः = doubt

Sloka Meaning
And whosoever, leaving the body, goes forth remembering Me alone, at the time of his death, he attains My being, there is no doubt about this.

Sloka 6
यं यं वापि स्मरन्भावं त्यजत्यन्ते कलेवरम्‌ ।
तं तमेवैति कौन्तेय सदा तद्भावभावितः ॥

Word to Word Meaning
यं यं = which which
वापि = or even
स्मरन्भावं = remembering
त्यजत्यन्ते = leaves at the end
कलेवरम्‌ = the body
तं = to that
तमेवैति = and to that alone he goes
कौन्तेय = O Kaunteya (Arjuna)
सदा = constantly
तद्भावभावितः = thinking of that object

Sloka Meaning
Whosoever, at the end, leaves this body, thinking of any being, to that being only he goes, O Kaunteya, because of his constant thought of that being.

Sloka 7
तस्मात्सर्वेषु कालेषु मामनुस्मर युद्ध च ।
मय्यर्पितमनोबुद्धिर्मामेवैष्यस्यसंशयम्‌ ॥

Word to Word Meaning
तस्मात्सर्वेषु = Therefore at all times
कालेषु = O Kaunteya
मामनुस्मर = you remember Me
युद्ध च = and fight
मय्यर्पित = fixed in Me
मनोबुद्धि = your mind and intellect
र्मामेवैष्यस्य = to Me alone you shall come
संशयम्‌ = (have) no doubt (about this)

Sloka Meaning
Therefore, at all times, remember Me, and fight, with mind and intellect fixed (or absorbed) in Me; you shall without doubt come to Me.
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Re: Gita Chapter 8 - Aksara Brahma Yoga

Postby sathiavathi » Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:28 pm

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VERSE-3

Brahma stands for the absolute, formless divinity,the embodyment of truth,knowledge and bliss,and not for the vedas,Brahma(the creater),Prakreti(primordial matter), or any other substance.Supreme means the subtlest and the best.'Supreme indestructible'in this verse refers to the supreme reality or the oversoul.This supreme reality or oversoul is in reality the same as God.Svabhava means ones own being.It is the conscious,higher nature of God in the form of individual soul.When this higher nature of God permeats the lower material nature in the shape of body,senses mind and intellect.They all go by the name of self,and presides over them and it is termed as Adhyatma.Therefore,adhyatma means the totality of conscious spirits of individual souls.The totality of jivas or adhyatma is also the same as God.The word bhuta stands for all living beings,both sentiment and insentiment.The word visarga means the primeval resolve of God which brings forth the existence of all beings and advances their cause. And it is this great feat of God in the shape of this visarga which quickens inert matter with life and activates it,with the result that there is an unceasing flow of endless karmas in the universe till the very end of creation through fi nal dissolution.Therefore,it is this visarga which goes by the name of karma or action.

VERSE-4

Ksarabhava is present before us in the form of the body,senses,mind,intellect, ego,the elements and various objects of senses.They are all sustained by the conscious higher nature of God,which is the same as the soul or spirit.It is collectively known as Adhibhuta.The word Purusa stands for the first person or brahma,who is known by the names of Sutratma,Hiranyagarbha and prajapathi as well.He represents the vital energy or life of all creation,sentiment and insentiment.

He is termed as 'Adhidaiva' the presiding diety.It is God himself who takes the form of Adhidaiva .Arjuna's query with reference to adhiyajna was two fold.

Who is adhiyajna and how does he dwells in the body? Lord says that He is himself 'Adhiyajna' and He dwells 'in this body'.It is the all pervasive aspect of God in the form of inner witness which dwells in the body.In addressing Arjuna as the best of all embodied beings, Lords intention is to show that Arjuna was a devotee of the Lord and was thus capable of grasping his meaning from a mere hint.
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Re: Gita Chapter 8 - Aksara Brahma Yoga

Postby sathiavathi » Wed Feb 05, 2014 11:36 pm

HARI OM

1.".Whatever object one remembers while leaving the body,that alone is reached by him". Explain.

'As you think so you become'.Thoughts guide all actions,and at any given movement the run of thoughts in an individual is governed and ordered by the channel of thinking that he himself has plowed with his conscious and willful thoughts and actions in the past.The time of death,when the occupant of the body has packed up
to quit, is not the moment to decide or to plan the travel.At such a movement instinctively,thoughts will run through its habitual channels ,and the flight of thoughts at that moment determines the direction of the ego's pilgrimage.(8.6)

2-Would not the Lord's instruction of remembering Him while working hamper the success of both?
Hardly ever is man's mind totally invested where his hands function.Ordinarily,a major portion of the mind,all the time,wanders in to the jungles of dreadful fears, or in to the caves of jealousies or in to the imaginary possibilities of failures.Instead of thus wasting the total mental energy and dynamism, Sri Krishna advises us that a truly successful man,striving to achieve the highest,both in the outer world of plurality,and in the realms with in,should rest his mind at the gracious and peaceful feet of Truth.He can then pour out the entire wealth of his capacities into the work in his hand,and there by assure for himself the highest levels both here and in the hereafter.(8.7)

Is it practical to remember our divine nature(Lord)even while acting in the world?
An actor,playing the part of a king in a drama, can never completely forget that he has a wife and a child in his own house on the outskirts of the city.He is efficient as the actor because he constantly remembers his own real identity. Similarly,even with continuous cognition four divine nature,we can act in the world without any hindrance,and thereby add a glow to our achievements,and soften the reactions of any disappointments that we might meet with in life's pilgrimage.(8.7)
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Re: Gita Chapter 8 - Aksara Brahma Yoga

Postby sathiavathi » Wed Feb 05, 2014 11:39 pm

HARI OM

Selections for Reflection-

1-To know the self is to know everything and having known the eternal as one's real nature,one is free to act or not to act in any fields of the not-self.(8.4)

2-The last thoughts of a dying man order his future embodiment and environment.The one who leaves the physical structure with his mind completely turned towards the self will reach the eternal and the immortal,the supreme abode,reaching which there is no return.(8.5)

3-Even while leaving through the turmoils of existence,a true seeker must learn to keep his mind continuously upon the awareness of his real nature and the substratum of the world in one vast embrace of blissful homogeneity. This is not difficult nor is it impractical.
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Re: Gita Chapter 8 - Aksara Brahma Yoga

Postby Payyubg » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:29 am

Verse 5:
Bhagawan says that once we come to know Him as our true nature- that inner consciousness-the Brahman, and this thought is ever present even at the time of death,
then undoubtedly we will find ourselves united with Him after death. There is no re-birth for such a person.

To be able to actually be in this state of mind at all times and especially at the time of death, one must prepare for this during his or her entire life (abhyasa). It is almost impossible to do it only at the time of death. To practice during ones life and to constantly remember The Lord in his true nature is of utmost importance because of the unpredictable nature of death.
Merely saying His name is not what Bhagawan is talking about. It is to have lead your life - thought, actions and everything that you you do with the complete understanding of the inner consciousness.
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Re: Gita Chapter 8 - Aksara Brahma Yoga

Postby Payyubg » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:59 am

Verse:6
In this verse Bhagawan further explains why it is important to have him in our thoughts at the moment when we depart our body.
He says a person reaches or attains that which is on his/her mind at the time of death.
If your thoughts are on Him - you reach Him and there is no re- birth.If your thoughts are on worldly matters then you are re-born into samsara once again.

It is something like the dreams that we experience while sleeping . Our dreams are sometimes a bizarre mixture of all the things that we perceived through our senses during the day. Depending on whether the dream was pleasant or unpleasant,we either have a good nights sleep or we have a sleepless and restless night. And this in turn determines whether the following day is going to be a productive one or not.

The thoughts that we have at the time of death determines our next destination.


Verse 7:

It is emphasized further in this sloka that without a doubt ,one who remembers Him at all times and continues to do his or her duty or work /actions dedicating his mind and intellect to The Lord, he or she will definitely reach Him.
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Re: Gita Chapter 8 - Aksara Brahma Yoga

Postby sathiavathi » Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:22 pm

HARI OM

VERSE-5
The process of meditating on Lord Krishna at the time of death is also well known to the three stages of aspirants mentioned previously being arthis,jignasur,and jnanis. One who when their life cycle has the supreme Lord in their constant remembrance at the moment of departing their body attains the supreme Lord.What ever nature of the supreme Lord is vividly envisioned in one's mind at the moment of death that nature one becomes without fail.The story of Jadabharata in Bhagavata shows it. Jadabharata was attached to a deer he had raised after seeing it's mother killed by a tiger and at the exact moment of death looking at this deer he was concerned about it's future welfare and hence in his future life he was born as a deer due to this last impression of consciousness.This is because the predominance position of such thoughts and images in one's Consciousness automatically direct and transport one to that which one envisions.

That reality that whatever ideas and images that are present in one's mind in the very last thought before death is what one absolutely becomes in their
next life is further elucidated in the next verse.

VERSE-6
What ever image predominantly floats in one's mind at the moment of death and one leaves one's physical body with that final thought one will become
in their very next life.Their final thought will become form.One's final thought will naturally be what was constantly reflected upon and meditated on during
their span of life based upon one's association and daily habits.
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Re: Gita Chapter 8 - Aksara Brahma Yoga

Postby Arvind » Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:35 pm

Sloka 5
अंतकाले च मामेव स्मरन्मुक्त्वा कलेवरम्‌ ।
यः प्रयाति स मद्भावं याति नास्त्यत्र संशयः


At the time of death, अंतकाले one who remembers Me and departs this gross body he प्रयाति - goes and reaches my abode or attains to my being. One should not doubt this.
(1) The Lord here uses the word मामेव , meaning Me alone you remember only then you will attain my abode. The word मामेव means in its absolute sense of pure Consciousness which is the Lord's essential nature.
(2) The dual words स्मरन् and न्मुक्त्वा are used, meaning while departing you must remember Me. And that is possible only of you have remembered Me all life, for what we think of all life, the same thought comes अंतकाले , at the time of death also.
(3) The word प्रयाति indicates a 'going' meaning the Lord is referring to krama-mukti here. For absolute moksha is understanding my true nature, and there is no going in that case. Or idea is one attains krama mukti and then finally attains liberation by knowledge.
(4) The word स मद्भावं can indicate that finally he attains by knowledge my essential nature i.e pure Consciousness. Or स मद्भावं can mean he becomes like Me when he attains BrahmaLoka (in case of krama mukti). For the Visnu Bhakta the Brahma Lok attained by krama mukti looks like Vaikuntha, and for a Siva bhakta appears as Kailas Loka and so on.
(5) नास्त्यत्र संशयः , do not doubt this. For these are matters only a Shastra can tell so one may doubt- whether it be the case of krama mukti or final liberation by knowledge, these only Shastras can tell us. Therefore the Lord says do not doubt.

Now a question may arise, suppose one does all vicious actions all life and suddenly remembers God at the end will he attain liberation? For that
(a) First of all it is impossible that thought of God will come to a person in his last moment for one who has remained an indulgent life. This will be explained by the Lord himself in the next Sloka
(2) We do not know when the last moment or death will come, so it is impossible to plan our hour of death
(3) In old age or time of death it is very difficult for the mind to be concentrated for it is weak and agitated. So unless one has done upasana and trained his mind to focus on God all life such thoughts cannot even remotely come in the last moment, even if we were to predict it.
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Re: Gita Chapter 8 - Aksara Brahma Yoga

Postby Arvind » Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:59 pm

Hari Om,

We have a discussion forum going on Maneesha Panchakam. You can find it under Mananam on texts or Slokas. Please participate if you can, if not you can read and follow them.

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Re: Gita Chapter 8 - Aksara Brahma Yoga

Postby Arvind » Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:50 am

Sloka 6
यं यं वापि स्मरन्भावं त्यजत्यन्ते कलेवरम्‌ ।
तं तमेवैति कौन्तेय सदा तद्भावभावितः ॥


The Lord here states why it is important that one must do remembrance of the Lord all his life. Whatever a man thinks, so he becomes. The character contour of one's personality is molded by one's thought patterns. Therefore if one has not led a spiritual life all his life then it is impossible to suddenly have thoughts of God at the time of leaving the body.

The Katha Upanisad also states in 2.6.7
yonim anye prapadyante prapadyante šarīratvāya dehinaḥ
sthāṇum anye' nusaṃyanti yathā-karma yathā-šrutam


Some souls enter the womb for acquiring bodies and others follow the motionless, in accordance with their work and in conformity with their knowledge.
yatha srutam = based on their knowledge, the vasana outburst based on the impressions collected
yatha karma = the field of work necessary to exhaust the vasana that they have accumulated in their life time.

Therefore, the knowledge of man depends on how he has lived his life and what is the knowledge he has collected. That alone decides the destiny of the next birth, with an appropriate field of action to exhaust his vasanas. That being so for one who has led a spiritual life, he will either attain krama mukti, or if more effort his needed his next birth would be conducive to his spiritual unfoldment. It cannot be otherwise, for the Upanishad also says "yatha karma yatha srutam".

We have also seen in Chapter 6 of the Gita towards the end where the Lord echoes the fate of a spiritual seeker who dies without realizing the Truth. There also he echoes the same sentiment.

Therefore one must make a willful effort all life to attain God. What we make with effort ultimately becomes effortless and then the same thought will pervade our mind even at the time of death.
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Re: Gita Chapter 8 - Aksara Brahma Yoga

Postby murugans61 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:06 pm

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Thoughts and concepts
1 Whatever object one remembers while leaving the body, that alone is reached by him. Explain.
'As you think so you become'. Thoughts guide all actions and at any given moment the run of the thoughts in an individual is governed and ordered by the channel of thinking that he himself has ploughed with his conscious and wilful thoughts and actions in the past. The time of death, when the occupant of the body has packed up to quit, is not the moment to decide or to plan the travel. At such a moment, instinctively, thoughts will run through its habitual channels, and the flight of thoughts at that moment determines the direction of the ego's pilgrimage.
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Re: Gita Chapter 8 - Aksara Brahma Yoga

Postby murugans61 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:15 pm

2 Would not the Lord's instruction of remembering Him while working hamper the success of both?
Hardly ever is man's mind totally invested where his hands function. Ordinarily, a major portion of the mind, all the time, wanders into jungles of dreadful fears,or into the caves of jealousies or into the deserts of imaginary possibilities of failures. Instead of thus just wasting the total mental energy and dynamism,Sri Krishna advises us that a truly successful man,striving to achieve the highest,both in the outer world of plurality,and in the realms within,should rest his mind at the gracious and peaceful feet of the Truth.He can then pour out the entire wealth of his capacities into the work in his hand,and thereby assure for himself the highest laurels both here and in the hereafter.(8.7)
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Re: Gita Chapter 8 - Aksara Brahma Yoga

Postby murugans61 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:25 pm

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3 Is it practical to remember our Divine Nature(Lord) even while acting in the world?

An actor,playing the part of a king in a drama,can never completely forget that he has a wife and a child in his own house on the outskirts of the city.He is efficient as the actor because he constantly remembers his own real identity.Similarly,even with continuous cognition of our Divine Nature,we can act in the world without any hindrance,and thereby add a glow to our achievements,and soften the reactions of any disappointments that we might meet with in life's pilgrimage.(8.7)
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Re: Gita Chapter 8 - Aksara Brahma Yoga

Postby Arvind » Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:51 am

Sloka 7
तस्मात्सर्वेषु कालेषु मामनुस्मर युद्ध च ।
मय्यर्पितमनोबुद्धिर्मामेवैष्यस्यसंशयम्‌ ॥


Therefore, at all times, remember Me all life. Strengthen the vasana of remembarance of the Lord all life so that even at the time of death. Now how to implement it practically, the Lord expounds.

In as much as the last flash of consciousness of a dying person determines a persons destination and specification in their very next birth. This flash will naturally be that which one pondered and contemplated and became accustomed and habituated to performing as a daily practice. Therefore it is imperative that if one desires to achieve the ultimate goal of human existence they shall learn about the Supreme Lord Krishna and becoming attached to Him unceasingly meditate upon Him until the very moment of departure from this material existence at the moment of death.

Lord Krishna also advises with the words anusmara yudhya meaning fight while remembering Him. This was applicable to Arjuna who was a ksatriya or warrior from the royal line and it is his duty to protect righteousness. But it also applies to everyone to perform their prescribed duties according to the injunctions enjoined in the Vedic scriptures. This includes ones daily duties and sometimes special occasional duties as ordained by varnasrama or one's position and rank within society.

Thus while performing ones specific duties daily adhering and following the ordinances of the Vedic scriptures one should meditate upon the Supreme Lord with every action one performs. In this way one will be constantly thinking of Him and perpetually He will be infused in ones consciousness. This is the most perfect and expedient way to succeed in keeping the mind and will fixed upon Lord Krishna and thus naturally at the moment of death one who has meditated throughout their life on Him will of course easily be remembering Him at the final moment of departure from the physical body and will immediately transcend to join Him in the eternal spiritual worlds according to their wish. There is no doubt about this whatsoever.
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Re: Gita Chapter 8 - Aksara Brahma Yoga

Postby SUBU66 » Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:41 pm

My name is AVA.Subramaniam, I am summing up as under.

In the last verse 29 and 30 of chapter 7, Lord says that those who take refuge in Him are relieved from the cycle of birth and death and talks about Brahma(Absolute), Adhyatma(Spirit), Karma(action), Adhibhuta(Matter), Adhidaiva(Divine Intelligence) and Adhiyajna. This kindles Arjuna to know more about these terminologies which Lord explains in Verses 1 to 4 of Chapter 8 and the same has been explained very well by Mr. Madan.

To the question of Arjuna in Verse 2 about Adhiyjna and how to realise that EXISTENCE, the Lord starts explaining from Verse 5 onwards about the final destiny of the Yogis who contemplate on the formless Divinity and attributes and of those who adore the formless and attributeless Brahma.

In Verse 5 Lord brings out the importance of human birth by Jiva after passing through various sub-human forms by saying Anthakale cha meaning thereby if any human fails to realise GOD even after obtaining the human birth with the GRACE OF GOD, etc etc. and continues in Verse 6 that he becomes of that entity he contemplates on at the time of death. In Verse 7 He says that think of Me alone.

Reflections:
It will be interesting to note that Lord speaks about death in Chapter II itself by saying that the Jiva, throws way the body and takes new
body like we throw away worn out dress and wears new one. This is to bring out the aspect of birth and death of the body and not that of Jiva. Lord explained that body is perishable and not the JIVA. At that point of time, question arose as to why then sometimes young body is thrown away even when they are not worn out.?? At that point of time the purpose was to tell Arjuna not to grieve for those human bodies which dies/perishes.
In the horoscope, 8th house predicts death, here in Geetha, 8th chapter talks about death and after death scenario.
Some materialist may think that why not enjoy the pleasures of the world and think of the GOD only at the time of death by quoting the verse 5. But the words “Anthakale Ca” indicates even at the time of death. What Lord meant is remember GOD always and only at the time of death.
Question is; Will it be possible!!!!! No. Because, when the mind is filled with flow of thoughts, at the time of death also the continuous thought-flow will prevent the thought of GOD. Secondly, how anyone will know when the body is going to die. Every moment there is chance of death!!!
Therefore the interpretation of “Anthakale Ca” can be = Do not think of the past and future. This will reduce the thought-flows considerably. The present is ready cash for you, spend it in remembering GOD. How to do? Whatever karma one does, if he performs as if ordained by the GOD and offers the result at the feet of the GOD then it will be possible to think of GOD always and even at the time of death as the perishing of the body also is ordained by the GOD.
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Re: Gita Chapter 8 - Aksara Brahma Yoga

Postby nikhil1707 » Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:36 pm

Verse 5,6,7
And at the time of death, anyone who departs by giving up the body while thinking of Me alone,he attains My state. There is no doubt about this.

O son of Kunti, thinking of any entity whichever it may be one gives up the body at the
end, he attains that very one, having been always engrossed in its thought.

Therefore, think of Me at all times and fight. There is no doubt that by dedicating your mind and intellect to Me, you will attain Me alone.
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Re: Gita Chapter 8 - Aksara Brahma Yoga

Postby Arvind » Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:41 am

Hari Om to All,

Thank you everyone for your thoughts on Sloka 5,6,7.

Summary till Now:
Arjuna had asked seven questions to Bhagavan Sri Krishna at the beginning of this Chapter.

The Lord answered the first six questions in Slokas 3,4. Though these terms may be confusing initially, it is only the same knowledge that the Lord has already given till now. Brahman when it is associated with different upadhis gets different names, and with reference to the limiting adjuncts these names are given. So much so that the Lord said that only that activity that takes us to Brahman is called as "karma", all other activity is only mere sheer labor.

Now from Sloka 5 onwards till the end of this Chapter, the Lord answers the last question of Arjuna about death, and how to attain the Lord or remember Him at the time of Death.

We have seen Slokas 5,6 and 7 where it was primarily said that what impression we gather all life is what will appear at the hour of death, hence one must spend all life in outward action for the Lord and inward in contemplation and meditation.

Now let us see Slokas 8 and 9 together.

Word and Sloka Meaning : Arvind
HGRR :
Thoughts and Concepts (4,5,6) = Kishan
Thoughts and Concepts (7,8,9) = Sathiavathi ji

Terms and Definitions (2) = Muruganji
Selections for Reflection (4) = Muruganji

Thoughts, reflections, comments on both Slokas = everyone

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