Gita Study Group : Chapter 4 : Dnyan Karma Sannyas Yoga

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Re: Gita Study Group : Chapter 4 : Dnyan Karma Sannyas Yoga

Postby vignesh » Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:25 pm

verse 28

dravya-yajnas tapo yajna yoga yajnas tatha pare
svadhyaya jnana yajnas ca yatayah samsita vratah

dravya-yajnah – those who offer wealth as sacrifice
tapo-yajna – those who offer austerity as sacrifice
yoga-yajnah – those who offer yoga as sacrifice
tatha – again
apare – others
svadhyaya-jnana-yajnah – those who offer study and knowledge as sacrifice
ca- and
yatayah – ascetics or anchorities ( persons of self restraint)
samsita-vratah – persons of rigid vows.

Others again offer wealth,austerity and Yoga as sacrifice, while the ascetics of self – restraint and rigid vows offer study of scriptures and knowledge as sacrifice.

Terms and Definitions:

9)Define the terms ‘puraka’, ‘kumbhaka’ and ‘ recaka’.
In the technique of pranayama, the process of filling in air is ‘puraka’, the process of blowing out is ‘ recaka’ and holding the breath for some tine within or without is called ‘ kumbhaka’. ( 4.29)

Thoughts and Concepts

26) What is ‘ svadhyaya-yajna’?
The daily deep study of scriptures is called ‘ svadhyaya.’ Without a complete study of the scriptures we will not be in a position to know the logic of what we are doing in the name of spiritual practice, and without this knowledge our practices cannot gain the edge and the depth that are essential for sure progress. Even after Self Realisation, we find that the Sages spend all their spare-time reading and contemplating upon the inexhaustible wealth of details and suggestions in the scriptures.
‘ Svadhyaya’ also includes the art of introspection pursued for understanding our own inner weaknesses. If, in the case of a seeker, ‘ svadhyaya yajna’ is a technique of estimating his own spiritual progress, in the case of a Seer, it will be for reveling in his own Self. ( 4.28).

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Re: Gita Study Group : Chapter 4 : Dnyan Karma Sannyas Yoga

Postby uma » Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:29 pm

Hari Om. Pranam.

अपाने जुह्वति प्राणं प्राणेSपानं तथापरे |
प्राणापानगती रुद्ध्वा प्राणायामपरायणा: || २९ ||

apaane juhvati praanam praane paanam tathaapare
praanaapanagatee ruddhvaa praanaayaamaparayanaa:

अपाने - in the incoming breath, जुह्वति -sacrifice, प्राणं - the outgoign breath, प्राणे - in the outgoing breath, अपानं - the incoming breath, तथा - thus, अपरे - others, प्राण अपान गती - courses of the out going and in coming breaths, रुद्ध्वा - restraining, प्राणायाम परायणा: - solely absorbed in the restraint (regulation) of breath i e life energy

29. Others offer as sacrifice, the out going breath in the in coming, and the in coming in the outgoing, restraining the courses of the out going and in coming breaths, solely absorbed in teh restraint of breath.

HGRR

Terms and Definitions

10. What is prana? What are the five types of prana?

The term "prana" indicates the various physiological functions in a living body.
The five types of prana are:

1. the function of respiration (prana)
2. the function of excretion (apana)
3. the function of digestion and assimilation (samana)
4. the function of blood circulation (vyana)
5. the function of involuntary reverse actions (like vomiting etc) as well as the capacity in a living creature to improve himself in his mental outlook and intellectual life (udana) (4.29)

Thoughts and Concepts

27. What is "jnaan yajna"?
"Jnaan yajna" is a term given to that activity in man by which he renounces all his ignorance into the "fire of knowledge" kindled by him, in himself. This is constituted of two aspects: 1. negation of the false and 2. assertion of the real nature of the Self and are effectively undertaken during the seeker's meditation. (4.28)

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Re: Gita Study Group : Chapter 4 : Dnyan Karma Sannyas Yoga

Postby murugans61 » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:25 am

Hari OM

Verse 27

sarvan-indriya-karmani prana-karmani capare,
atma-samyama-yog-agnau juhvati jnana-dipite

sarvani – all, indriya-karmani-functions of the senses, prana-karmani-functions of the breath (vital energy), ca-and,apare-others, atma-samyama-yoga-agnau – in the fire of the Yoga of self-restraint, juhvati – sacrifice, jnana-dipite- kindled by knowledge.

Others again sacrifice all the functions of the senses and the functions of the breath ( vital energy) in the fire of the Yoga of self-restraint, kindled by knowledge.

Terms and definitions:

8) What is ‘atma-samyama-yoga?
Yoga of self –restraint.

Thoughts and Concepts

25) What is ‘dravya-yajna’?
‘Dravya-yajna’is ‘sacrifice of wealth’. Charity and distribution of heonestly acquired wealth, in a sincere spirit of service to an individual or the community, is called ‘dravya-yajna’. This includes more than a mere offering of money or food. The word’dravya’ includes everything that we possess, not only in the world outside but also in our worlds of emotions and ideas. To pursue thus a life of charity , serving the world as best as we can, with all that we possess physically, mentally and intellectually is the noble sacrifice called ‘dravya-yajna’ ( 4.28)

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Re: Gita Study Group : Chapter 4 : Dnyan Karma Sannyas Yoga

Postby uma » Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:27 am

Hari Om. Pranam.

Here are the Verses 27-29 for our discussion. Please post your thoughts,
your study notes, reflections on these verses.

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सर्वाणीन्द्रियकर्माणि प्राणकर्माणि चापरे |
आत्मसंयमयोगाग्नौ जुह्वति ज्ञानदीपिते || २७ ||

sarvan-indriya-karmani prana-karmani capare,
atma-samyama-yog-agnau juhvati jnana-dipite

सर्वाणि- sarvani – all,इन्द्रियकर्माणि- indriya-karmani-functions of the senses, प्राण कर्माणि -prana-karmani-functions of the breath (vital energy),च- ca-and,अपरे- apare-others, आत्म संयम योगअग्नौ -atma-samyama-yoga-agnau – in the fire of the Yoga of self-restraint, जुह्वति juhvati – sacrifice,ज्ञान दीपिते - jnana-dipite- kindled by knowledge.

27. Others again sacrifice all the functions of the senses and the functions of the breath ( vital energy) in the fire of the Yoga of self-restraint, kindled by knowledge.


द्रव्ययज्ञास्तपोयज्ञा योगयज्ञास्तथापरे |
स्वाध्यायज्ञानयज्ञाश्च यतय: संशितव्रता: || २८ ||

dravya-yajnas tapo yajna yoga yajnas tatha pare
svadhyaya jnana yajnas ca yatayah samsita vratah

द्रव्य यज्ञा: -dravya-yajnah – those who offer wealth as sacrifice,तपो यज्ञा:- tapo-yajna – those who offer austerity as sacrifice,
योग यज्ञा:- yoga-yajnah – those who offer yoga as sacrifice, तथा -tatha – again, अपरे- apare – others,
स्वाध्याय ज्ञान यज्ञा: - svadhyaya-jnana-yajnah – those who offer study and knowledge as sacrifice, च- ca- and,
यतय:- yatayah – ascetics or anchorities ( persons of self restraint), संशित व्रता: - samsita-vratah – persons of rigid vows.


28. Others again offer wealth,austerity and Yoga as sacrifice, while the ascetics of self – restraint and rigid vows offer study of scriptures and knowledge as sacrifice.


अपाने जुह्वति प्राणं प्राणेSपानं तथापरे |
प्राणापानगती रुद्ध्वा प्राणायामपरायणा: || २९ ||

apaane juhvati praanam praane paanam tathaapare
praanaapanagatee ruddhvaa praanaayaamaparayanaa:

अपाने - in the incoming breath, जुह्वति -sacrifice, प्राणं - the outgoign breath, प्राणे - in the outgoing breath, अपानं - the incoming breath, तथा - thus, अपरे - others, प्राण अपान गती - courses of the out going and in coming breaths, रुद्ध्वा - restraining, प्राणायाम परायणा: - solely absorbed in the restraint (regulation) of breath i e life energy

29. Others offer as sacrifice, the out going breath in the in coming, and the in coming in the outgoing, restraining the courses of the out going and in coming breaths, solely absorbed in the restraint of breath.

HGRR


Terms and definitions:

8. What is ‘atma-samyama-yoga?

Yoga of self –restraint.

9. Define the terms ‘puraka’, ‘kumbhaka’ and ‘ recaka’.

In the technique of pranayama, the process of filling in air is ‘puraka’, the process of blowing out is ‘ recaka’ and holding the breath for some tine within or without is called ‘ kumbhaka’. ( 4.29)


10. What is prana? What are the five types of prana?

The term "prana" indicates the various physiological functions in a living body.
The five types of prana are:

1. the function of respiration (prana)
2. the function of excretion (apana)
3. the function of digestion and assimilation (samana)
4. the function of blood circulation (vyana)
5. the function of involuntary reverse actions (like vomiting etc) as well as the capacity in a living creature to improve himself in his mental outlook and intellectual life (udana) (4.29)


Thoughts and Concepts

25. What is ‘dravya-yajna’?

‘Dravya-yajna’is ‘sacrifice of wealth’. Charity and distribution of heonestly acquired wealth, in a sincere spirit of service to an individual or the community, is called ‘dravya-yajna’. This includes more than a mere offering of money or food. The word’dravya’ includes everything that we possess, not only in the world outside but also in our worlds of emotions and ideas. To pursue thus a life of charity , serving the world as best as we can, with all that we possess physically, mentally and intellectually is the noble sacrifice called ‘dravya-yajna’ ( 4.28)


26. What is ‘ svadhyaya-yajna’?

The daily deep study of scriptures is called ‘ svadhyaya.’ Without a complete study of the scriptures we will not be in a position to know the logic of what we are doing in the name of spiritual practice, and without this knowledge our practices cannot gain the edge and the depth that are essential for sure progress. Even after Self Realisation, we find that the Sages spend all their spare-time reading and contemplating upon the inexhaustible wealth of details and suggestions in the scriptures.
‘ Svadhyaya’ also includes the art of introspection pursued for understanding our own inner weaknesses. If, in the case of a seeker, ‘ svadhyaya yajna’ is a technique of estimating his own spiritual progress, in the case of a Seer, it will be for reveling in his own Self. ( 4.28).


27. What is "jnaan yajna"?


"Jnaan yajna" is a term given to that activity in man by which he renounces all his ignorance into the "fire of knowledge" kindled by him, in himself. This is constituted of two aspects: 1. negation of the false and 2. assertion of the real nature of the Self and are effectively undertaken during the seeker's meditation. (4.28)


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Re: Gita Study Group : Chapter 4 : Dnyan Karma Sannyas Yoga

Postby sathiavathi » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:53 am

HARI OM

VERSE-27.

All the activities of sense organs and organs of actions are directed in to the knowledge -kindled fire of right understanding.Controlling of the sense organsof
both perception and knowledge is possible only when mind is turned fully upon the contemplation of the self. This is called the yoga of of the self restrained
or atmasamyamaoga. Right knowledge leads to right determination. The path of discrimination is a constant attempt at distinguishing between limited ego and
divine spirit.To live as the self, and not as the ego, is to restrain self by self.

VERSE-2&
This verse enumerates five more techeniques that some seekers use to reach the self.1- offering of wealth. the term wealth includes everthing that we possess,
in the world out side and in our worlds of emotions and ideas and we use this wealth to pursue a life of charity, serving the world as best as we can.
2-life of austerities are undertaken in the name of lord.These vratas or self denial done in a spirit of dedication enhances the seekers self control.
3-yogayanjna -The worship and love offered
to the lord of the heart, when performed without

desire or motives hastens the seekers self development.
4-svadhyayajna or self study
of scriptures which includes the art of introspection pursued for understanding our inner weakness. For a seeker it is a
techenique of estimating his spiritual progress, but for a seer, it is a techenique of reveling self.
5-sacrifice of knowledge or jnana ajna.In this a seeker renounces all his ignorance in to the fire of knowledge kindled by him .This has two aspects.Negation
of the false and assertion of the real nature of self and are undertaken during the seekers meditation.
All these five methods of self development can be practiced bi those who are man of rigid determination and have an inexhaustible enthusiasm to reach this
great goal.Spiritual progress can come to one who is sincere and consistent in his practices.

verse-29.
`This verse explains the techenique of self control practiced by some seekers to keep themselves under perfect self control when they move amidest the world
of objects. As a sacrifice
some offer the outgoing breath into the incomming and others offer the incoming in to the outgoing.The latter is called puraka,meaning the process of
filling in and the former is called rachaka the process of blowing out. these two processes are alternated with an intervel, where in the breath is held
for sometime called the kumbhaka. This process of puraka,kumbhaka, rachaka, kumbhaka when practised in a prescribed ratio, becomes the techenique
of breath control called pranayama.Prana is not the breath. prana indicates the various manifested actiovities of life in a living body.The are
1-the function of perception,2-the function of excreation,3-the function of digestion and assimilation,4- the circulatory sistem, and lastly the capacity
in a living creature to improve himself in his mental out look and intelectual life.These activities are brought under the perfect control of the
individual through the process of pranayama, so that a seeker can, by this path, come to gain a complete capacity to withdraw all his perceptions.
Thisis indeed a great help to a meditator.
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Re: Gita Study Group : Chapter 4 : Dnyan Karma Sannyas Yoga

Postby uma » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:24 am

Hari Om. Pranam.

Dhanyavad Sathiavathiji and welcome back!

Reflections:

After learning Deva Yajna, Brahma Yajna, Offering hearing and other senses, offering sound and other senses as sacrifice in the fire of senses, other methods of sacrifice are explained in these 3 verses.

Sacrifice of all functions of the senses, functions of breath in the fire of Yoga of Self restraint and other sacrifices such as sacrifice of wealth, offering austerity as sacrifice, attempts at more divine living, self study of scriptures, renouncing all ignorance in the fire of knowledge are some more methods explained.

Restraint of breath, that is the method of Pranayam, which is followed by some is also explained.

These are all in a series of 12 yajna techniques, which Shri Krishna is explaining to Arjuna.

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Re: Gita Study Group : Chapter 4 : Dnyan Karma Sannyas Yoga

Postby vignesh » Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:42 pm

In these verses, Lord talks about various sadhanas comparing them to yajnas. All sadhanas lead one to liberation by preparing the mind. In verse 27, Lord says that some people offer all the functions of the sense organs and all the functions of prana into the fire of self control, kindled by discrimination.

Others of right effort of firm resolve are practitioners of charity as a yajna, austerities as yajna, yoga as yajna and the recitation and study of scriptures as a yajna ( V 28)

Committed to pranayama, others offer exhalation into the fire of inhalation, and inhalation into the fire of exhalation. Restraining the movements of both inhalation and exhalation , some others offer them into the fire of retention.(V29)

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Re: Gita Study Group : Chapter 4 : Dnyan Karma Sannyas Yoga

Postby murugans61 » Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:00 am

Hari OM

For the seekers described in verse 27, there is viveka, their discipline being lighted by knowledge – jnana dipita. Unto the fire of meditation that is helpful in self- knowledge, those who are given to meditation offer all sensory and other activities. In order to gain self mastery, these seekers have given up all activities and have taken to a life of meditation.

In verse 28, Lord points out various other disciplines that different types of seekers are engaged in. That thing which a man devotedly contributes for the welfare of others multiplies in him. This is the law governing Yajna.
Acquiring wealth by honest means and utilizing it for the public is a form of yajna.
The scrap iron is melted and recast as new. Similarly man reforms himself through austerity. This is another form of yajna.
Constant practice of Rajayoga or Ashtanga yoga constitutes the yagna of some others.
Study of sacred scriptures requires a good deal of self preparation. Being established in good habits is the result of extreme vows. Through devoted study and vows, the divine knowledge in one increases. This is done as an act of yajna by some.

The importance of pranayama is highlighted in verse 29. There is a close relationship between the mind and the breath. Fear, lust and anger etc hinder the flow of breath. Calmness, contentment, love and such healthy attitudes lead to a rhythm in breathing.

Conversely, if the flow of breath is voluntarily regulated, its effect on the mind is beneficial. Yogis took note of this fact and evolved the science of pranayama.

By converting the involuntary action of breathing into a voluntary action, one comes back to oneself. There is a certain discipline involved in this process, which helps one to gain a steady and pure mind.

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Re: Gita Study Group : Chapter 4 : Dnyan Karma Sannyas Yoga

Postby uma » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:04 am

Hari Om. Pranam to all.

Let us continue with our studies.

The current theme is " Methods of dissolving action- Right knowledge makes action a yagna" - stanzas 24 -32.
We will study the next 3 stanzas now.

Please post :

Verse 30 Uma
31 Vighneshaji
32 Ganeshaji

HGRR :

Terms and Conditions


11 Muruganji

Thoughts and Concepts

28 Vighneshaji

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Re: Gita Study Group : Chapter 4 : Dnyan Karma Sannyas Yoga

Postby uma » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:05 am

Hari Om. Pranam to all.

Posting Verse 30:

अपरे नियताहारा: प्राणान्प्राणेषु जुह्वति |
सर्वेsप्येते यज्ञविदो यज्ञक्षपितकल्मषा: ||३०||

apare niyataahaaraaH praanaan praaneshu juhvati
sarve pyete yajnavido yajnakshapitakalmashaah

अपरे - other persons, नियत-आहारा: - of regulated food, प्राणान् - life breaths, vital airs, प्राणेषु - in the vital airs, जुह्वति - sacrifice, सर्वे - all, अपि- also, एते- these, यज्ञ-विद: - knowers of sacrifice, यज्ञ-क्षपित-कल्मषा: - whose sins are destroyed by the sacrifice

30. Others, with well regulated diet, offer vital airs in the Vital-air. All these are knowers of sacrifice (Yajna) whose sins are destroyed by sacrifice (Yajna)

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Re: Gita Study Group : Chapter 4 : Dnyan Karma Sannyas Yoga

Postby murugans61 » Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:30 am

Hari OM

The twelve Yajnas are:

1) Daiva-yajna ( 4.25)
2) Brahma-yajna ( 4.25)
3) Yajna of sense control (4.26)
4) Yajna of mind control ( 4.26)
5) Yajna of self-restraint (4.27)
6) Dravya-yajna ( 4.28)
7) Tapo-yajna ( 4.28)
8) Yoga-yajna ( 4.28)
9) Svadhyaya-yajna ( 4.28)
10) Jnana-yajna ( 4.28)
11) Pranayama-yajna ( 4.29)
12) Niyatahara-yajna ( 4.30)

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Re: Gita Study Group : Chapter 4 : Dnyan Karma Sannyas Yoga

Postby vignesh » Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:51 pm

Verse 31

Yajna-sistamrta-bhujo yanti brahma sanatanam
Nayam loko-stya-yajnasya kuto-nyah kuru-sattam

Yajna –sista-amrta-bhujah – eaters of nectar-the remnant of the sacrifice
Yanti – go
Brahma-Brahman
Sanatanam-eternal
Na-not
Ayam-this
Lokah-world
Asti –is
Ayajnasya- of the non-sacrificer
Kutah – how
Anyah-other
Kuru-sattam- O best of the Kuru-s

The eaters of the nectar-remnant of the sacrifice(Yajna)-go to the Eternal Brahman.Even this world is not for the non-performer of sacrifice;how then the other ( world), O best of the Kuru-s?

Thoughts and concepts

28) What is meditation?
Meditation is the path in which the ego learns to withdraw its false evaluations of itself in particular, and of life in general, and comes to the final experience of its own Divine nature. (4.30)

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Re: Gita Study Group : Chapter 4 : Dnyan Karma Sannyas Yoga

Postby sganesh0112 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:19 pm

Hari Om and Pranams!

V.32 Evam bahu-vidhaa yajnaa vitataa brahmano mukhe |
Karmajaan-viddhi taan-sarvaan-evam jnatvaa vimoksyase ||


evam – thus, bahu-vidhaah – manifold, Yajnaah – sacrifices, vitataa – are spread, brahmanaah – of Brahman (or veda), mukhe – in the face, Karmajaan – born of action, viddhi – know (you), taan – them, sarvaan – all, evam – thus, jnaatvaa – having known, vimoksyase – you shall be liberated.

Thus innumerable sacrifices lie spread out in Vedaas ( as paths Brahman, literally at the mouth or face of Brahman) – Know them all as born of action, and thus knowing, you shall be liberated.


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Re: Gita Study Group : Chapter 4 : Dnyan Karma Sannyas Yoga

Postby uma » Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:23 pm

Hari Om. Pranam.

Here are the Verses 30-32 for our discussion. Please post your thoughts,
your study notes, reflections on these verses.

Offering this garland of verses to you O Krishna with Love from all of
us...please help us in our studies.
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अपरे नियताहारा: प्राणान्प्राणेषु जुह्वति |
सर्वेsप्येते यज्ञविदो यज्ञक्षपितकल्मषा: ||३०||

apare niyataahaaraaH praanaan praaneshu juhvati
sarve pyete yajnavido yajnakshapitakalmashaah

अपरे - other persons, नियत-आहारा: - of regulated food, प्राणान् - life breaths, vital airs, प्राणेषु - in the vital airs, जुह्वति - sacrifice, सर्वे - all, अपि- also, एते- these, यज्ञ-विद: - knowers of sacrifice, यज्ञ-क्षपित-कल्मषा: - whose sins are destroyed by the sacrifice

30. Others, with well regulated diet, offer vital airs in the Vital-air. All these are knowers of sacrifice (Yajna) whose sins are destroyed by sacrifice (Yajna)

यज्ञशिष्टामृतभुजो यान्ति ब्रह्म सनातनम् |
नायं लोकोsस्त्ययज्ञस्य कुतोsन्य: कुरुसत्तम ||३१||

Yajna-sistamrta-bhujo yanti brahma sanatanam
Nayam loko-stya-yajnasya kuto-nyah kuru-sattam

यज्ञ शिष्ट अमृत भुज: - Yajna –sista-amrta-bhujah – eaters of nectar-the remnant of the sacrifice, यान्ति- Yanti – go, ब्रह्म - Brahma-Brahman, सनातनम् -Sanatanam-eternal, न- Na-not, अयं- Ayam-this, लोक: - Lokah-world, अस्ति- Asti –is, अयज्ञस्य- Ayajnasya- of the non-sacrificer, कुत: -Kutah – how, अन्य:- Anyah-other,कुरु सत्तं - Kuru-sattam- O best of the Kuru-s

31.The eaters of the nectar-remnant of the sacrifice(Yajna)-go to the Eternal Brahman.Even this world is not for the non-performer of sacrifice;how then the other ( world), O best of the Kuru-s?



एवं बहुविधा यज्ञा वितता ब्रह्मणो मुखे |
कर्मजान्विद्धि तान्सर्वानेवं ज्ञात्वा विमोक्ष्यसे ||३२||

evam bahuvidha yajna vitata brahmano mukhe
karmajaanviddhee taansarvaanevam jnaatvaa vimokshyase

एवं - thus, बहुविधा - manifold, यज्ञा: - sacrifices, वितता - are spread, ब्रह्मणा:- of Brahman (or Veda), मुखे - in the face, कर्मजान - born of action, विद्धि - know (you), तान - them, सर्वान - all, एवं - thus, ज्ञात्वा - having known, विमोक्ष्यसे - you shall be liberated

32. Thus innumerable sacrifices lie spread out in Vedas ( as paths to Brahman, literally at the mouth or face of Brahman) - Know them all as born of action, and thus knowing, you shall be liberated

HGRR:

Terms and Conditions

11. The twelve Yajnas are:

1) Daiva-yajna ( 4.25)
2) Brahma-yajna ( 4.25)
3) Yajna of sense control (4.26)
4) Yajna of mind control ( 4.26)
5) Yajna of self-restraint (4.27)
6) Dravya-yajna ( 4.28)
7) Tapo-yajna ( 4.28)
8) Yoga-yajna ( 4.28)
9) Svadhyaya-yajna ( 4.28)
10) Jnana-yajna ( 4.28)
11) Pranayama-yajna ( 4.29)
12) Niyatahara-yajna ( 4.30)

Thoughts and Concepts

28. What is meditation?

Meditation is the path in which the ego learns to withdraw its false evaluations of itself in particular, and of life in general, and comes to the final experience of its own Divine nature. (4.30)
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Re: Gita Study Group : Chapter 4 : Dnyan Karma Sannyas Yoga

Postby sathiavathi » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:03 am

HARI OM

VERSE-30

Some seekers follow systemrtic control of their diet to gain a complete mastery over themselves and their appetites and passions. Through these techeniques
they well perfected their knowledge and showed how,a man's character and behaviour, and ultimately his very cultural quality can be purified and raised.
Knowers of the yanjna means those who know the art of living a peaceful life with these techeniques.Those who practice all these techeniques or a few , or
even one of them for a sufficiently long periode, can become purified of their sins.Sins are the wrong vasanas or devolutionary thoughts in a mind
that are entertained by a deluded ego in its misunderstanding and its consequent attachment with the body and sense-objects.These practices wipe out and clean
the existing wrong vasanas.They produce new -channels-of-thoughts more constructive and evolutionary in their very nature. They guide the mind-and-intellect
equipment to get adjusted for greater and more effective self application in meditation.By meditation mind learns to withdraw its false evaluations
and to experience its own divine nature. We can see seekers too much attached to their own path and constantly arguing amoung themselves. Therefore,
Arjuna has been instructed here that all paths, however noble and great they may be, are all but means, and not an end in them selves.

VERSE-31.

Sacred remains were the left overs in the pot from which the offerings were made to the lord.Devotees ate this remains with great reverence considering that,
there by their mind would get purified.In the subjective world these sacred remains are to be considered as the result of the twelve type of yanjas.The
result of the any one of the above yajnas give a greater amount of self control and the consequent inner intergration of the individual personality.
self-development and innergrowth cannot be had without investing continuous and sincere self-effort.Inaction can never bring about any profit even in this world,
in any field what so ever.Great and enduring profit can be achieved only through self-dedicated and selfless activity. Therefore, Krishna exclaims:
"how could a seeker hope to get the highest without any concious effort at gaining it?"

VERSE-32.
Though twelve types of yajnas are different from one another, all of them ultimately lead to the same goal the divine self.
All these paths prescribed in the vedas are to be pursued through self effort. Here Arjuna is reminded of the inevitability of right action, if he wants
to move ahead in his cultural self-development and also suggest that all these paths are only means and not the end.Action is born of desires.As long as
there is action there is no redemption from desires.The state of desirelessness is the state of perfection. Lord is giving a note of warning to Arjuna
that we should not misunderstand these yajnas as the very goal of life.One who understand thus he shall be freed.This means that he will be free from the
confusions and misseries of life.
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Re: Gita Study Group : Chapter 4 : Dnyan Karma Sannyas Yoga

Postby vignesh » Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:13 am

In the series of techniques enumerated by the Lord, the 12th method is explained in verse 30. Through regulated dieting, a man’s character and behavior and ultimately his very cultural quality can be purified and raised.

In all the twelve different Yajna techniques, self effort is the common factor. The result of any one of these Yajnas is greater amount of self control and the consequent inner integration of the individual personality.

All these paths are only the means and not the end. Though the paths are different , all of them ultimately lead to the same goal, The Brahman.

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Re: Gita Study Group : Chapter 4 : Dnyan Karma Sannyas Yoga

Postby sganesh0112 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:38 pm

Hari Om! and Pranams!

On this auspicious occasion of Jagannath Rath Yatra at Puri, best wishes to all fellow Sadhakas. May Lord Jagannath along with his brother Balabhadra and sister Subhadra always bless us.

Pranams

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Re: Gita Study Group : Chapter 4 : Dnyan Karma Sannyas Yoga

Postby uma » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:43 am

Hari Om. Pranam.

Dhanyavad Ganeshaji for the Ratha Yatra wishes posting.

As is very rightly pointed out by Sathyavathiji and Vighneshaji, the twelve yadnyas or the twelve techniques are only the means and not the end in themselves. The end goal is same, whichever technique is used, Self Realisation. There are different paths to be followed, one can choose the path suited to himself as per his/her mental inclinations. But the main point is it is to be followed religiously and continuously.

The paths have one thing in common, that is practice of self control. The mind sways with different desires towards different things and unless there is a regular method of self control, there cannot be progress.

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Re: Gita Study Group : Chapter 4 : Dnyan Karma Sannyas Yoga

Postby murugans61 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:53 pm

Hari OM

Eating and digesting is the natural way of vitalizing the body. Taking wholesome food in a regulated manner is in itself an aspect of yoga. It is like tuning the veena, in order to bring out the best music from it.

Whatever a person does must be conducive to the common welfare. The food consumed by him becomes nectar to the extent he relegates selfishness. Every act of self denial aid a person take a step towards perfection. He who offers his jivahood as oblation regains Brahmanhood, his Original State. There is no gain superior to the gain of Eternal Brahman.

Nature is the embodiment of yagna. Those who convert karma into yagna construe and conform to the sacred plan and divine design of the Nature. While karma in its ordinary form is binding, in the form of yagna it is liberating

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Re: Gita Study Group : Chapter 4 : Dnyan Karma Sannyas Yoga

Postby sganesh0112 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:55 pm

Hari Om and Pranams!
Continuing His Supreme discourse the Lord is now elaborating the theme Methods of dissolving action- Right knowledge makes action a yagna
4.24 BRAHMAN is the oblation; BRAHMAN is the clarified butter, etc., constituting the offerings; by BRAHMAN is the oblation poured into the fire of BRAHMAN; BRAHMAN verily shall be reached by him who always sees BRAHMAN in all actions.

4.25 Some YOGIS perform sacrifice to DEVAS alone (DEVA-YAJNA); while others offer “sacrifice” as sacrife by the Self, in the Fire of BRAHMAN (BRAHMA-YAJNA).

4.26 Some again offer hearing and other senses as sacrifice in the fires-of-restraint; others offer sound and other objects of sense as sacrifice in the fires-of-the-senses.

4.27 Others again sacrifice all the functions of the senses and the functions of breath (vital energy) in the fire of the Yoga of self-restraint, kindled by knowledge.

4.28 Others again offer wealth, austerity and Yoga as sacrifice, while the ascetics of self-restraint and rigid vows offer study of scriptures and knowledge as sacrifice.

4.29 Others offer as sacrifice, the out-going breath in the in-coming, and the in-coming in the out-going, restraining the courses of the out-going and in-coming breaths, solely absorbed in the restraint of breath.

4.30 Others, with well-regulated diet, offer vital-airs in the Vital-Air. All these are knowers of sacrifice (Yajna), whose sins are destroyed by sacrifice (Yajna).

4.31 The eaters of nectar-remnant of the sacrifice (Yajna) – go to the Eternal Brahman. Even this world is not for the non-performer of sacrifice; how then the other (world), O best of the Kuru-s?

4.32 Thus innumerable sacrifices lie spread out in Veda-s (as paths to Brahman, literally at the mouth r face of Brahman) ¬– know them all as born of action, and thus knowing, you shall be liberated.

Continuing with the gist of Swami Madhavanandaji’s Shravan Sadhana, 4.24 stanza enumerates the last of the 6 categories of Action.

The sixth category of Action is Brahmakarmasamaadhinaa- Seeing Brahman in all actions. Acting thus the seeker who is always acting and seeing Brahman in all his actions becomes one with Brahman.

After representing the very spirit in all Yajnas the Lord details how Right knowledge (Bhavna) makes every act a Yajna.

In the verses 4-25 to 4-30 the Lord has described the twelve Yajnas or the twelve different actions in our day to day life each one of which will bring the person that much closer to Self realization.

In my opinion, the Yajna of Self-control, Yajna of self-restraint, Tapo yajna and Yoga yajna are at the physical level, Daiva yajna, Yajna of mind control, pranayam yajna and niyatahara yajna are at the mental level, Dravya yajna at all the three (BMI) levels, Swadhyaya, jnana and Brahma yajna are at the intellectual level

In the verse 4-30, a clear dimension about meditation is illustrated by the Lord and in verse 4-31 the acceptance with prasada buddhi is elaborated and in verse 4.32 the Lord clears the doubt in the minds of the Sadhakas that Sadhana in any path will lead to the ultimate goal of Self realization.


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